{"id":65,"date":"2015-09-22T20:46:44","date_gmt":"2015-09-22T20:46:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/?p=65"},"modified":"2015-09-23T16:38:09","modified_gmt":"2015-09-23T16:38:09","slug":"on-scooping-banjos-for-clawhammer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/2015\/09\/22\/on-scooping-banjos-for-clawhammer\/","title":{"rendered":"On Scooping Banjos for Clawhammer&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The question arises not infrequently in clawhammer discussions as to whether or not it\u2019s a good idea to have a \u201cscooped\u201d banjo.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now for those unfamiliar with this term, it refers to replacing the higher frets (typically those above the 17th fret, though this is widely variable) with a lowered section of the fretboard. (While it is normally only the fingerboard that is affected, it\u2019s usually called \u201cscooping the neck.\u201d \u00a0The Deering Goodtime banjo is an example of a banjo having no separate fingerboard, so in its case, it truly is a scooped neck.)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Here are two scoops: the one on the left, by Mike Ramsey, is straight across (roughly above the spot where a 17th fret would be if this were not a fretless banjo) the other being an Ome Northstar having an \u00a0\u201cS\u201d scoop, being scooped above the 17th fret on the 1st-string side, and above the 15th fret on the 5th-string side. \u00a0(BTW, please note how Mike Ramsey tapered the inlay right into the \u201cramp\u201d of the scoop. \u00a0How cool is that?)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-69\" src=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_front-e1442953064985-159x300.jpg\" alt=\"ramsey_scoop_front\" width=\"159\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_front-e1442953064985-159x300.jpg 159w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_front-e1442953064985-542x1024.jpg 542w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_front-e1442953064985.jpg 1678w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 159px) 100vw, 159px\" \/>\u00a0 \u00a0 \u00a0<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-71\" src=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_front-145x300.jpg\" alt=\"northstar_scoop_front\" width=\"145\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_front-145x300.jpg 145w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_front.jpg 358w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 145px) 100vw, 145px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One can see from these side views of these same two banjos how the fingerboard has been removed (\u201cscooped\u201d) below the point the bottom of the fret tangs (or where they would be) .<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_side.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-70\" src=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_side-300x206.jpg\" alt=\"ramsey_scoop_side\" width=\"271\" height=\"186\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_side-300x206.jpg 300w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/ramsey_scoop_side.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 271px) 100vw, 271px\" \/><\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_side.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-72\" src=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_side-300x160.jpg\" alt=\"northstar_scoop_side\" width=\"336\" height=\"179\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_side-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/northstar_scoop_side.jpg 750w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>(<strong>Click on photos to enlarge<\/strong>)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Naturally, one might wonder: \u201cOK, very nice, but why on earth would someone <em>want<\/em> to remove part of the fingerboard and a bunch of frets (or, FTM, to buy a new, scooped banjo made without those frets)?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As so often happens, there is more than one answer:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It allows the player\u2019s right hand easy access to the strings without his fingers or thumb \u00a0striking the fingerboard when playing \u201cover the neck.\u201d \u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">(Oops, we just raised another question: \u00a0\u201cWhy on earth would someone want to play with his right hand over the neck?\u201d \u00a0That, at least, is a very simple question to answer: for tonal variation. \u00a0As it turns out, the closer the right hand is to the bridge when striking the strings, the brighter the tone of the instrument. \u00a0In fact, if you get too close, the tone becomes quite thin and tinny.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conversely, as the right hand moves away from the bridge towards the halfway point at the 12th fret, the tone becomes softer and warmer. \u00a0Many clawhammer players like to use their instruments\u2019 full spectra of tone, rather than just keeping their right hands in one place as they play. Having a scoop makes it easy to find the warmer tones when desired.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Too, as one strikes the strings roughly above the 19th fret\u2019s nominal position, one often hears a hollow, popping sound that is commonly called the \u201ccluck.\u201d \u00a0Again, having the right hand up over the neck makes this far easier to accomplish.)<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Oh, yeah, another reason to have a scoop&#8230;it looks ever-so cool.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This scooping of necks had been done occasionally over the years, but it was the playing of Kyle Creed and his subsequent building of banjos for sale that brought them to people&#8217;s attention. \u00a0Subsequently, when Mike Ramsey began to build banjos specifically for the then up-and-coming old-time music market, he added a couple of Kyle\u2019s touches to his banjos: scooping them and promoting the 12-inch pot.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Are there reasons <em>not<\/em> to scoop a fingerboard? \u00a0Sure! \u00a0I would never scoop a vintage instrument. \u00a0Likewise, if you can only have one banjo and you frequently play above the 17th fret, having a scoop would be quite limiting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many clawhammer players rarely play above the 7th fret and never above the 17th, but still don\u2019t want to scoop their banjos (because they have vintage instruments, or because they don\u2019t like the look). \u00a0Many of these people simply install a tall bridge, raising the action significantly up the neck, but not down in the lower positions where they play. \u00a0In this way, they can get the same tonal advantages of a scoop, but without having to alter their instruments or buy special ones.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Others of us like relatively low action everywhere, in which case a scoop is wonderful, because we have full tonal range but are not limited to playing down at the first few frets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When the question of scooping was recently raised in a Facebook group, I threw together this dichotomous key to assist in the decision of whether or not to have a scooped banjo:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1a) I don&#8217;t like the plunky sound people get when playing over a scoop&#8230;NO, DON&#8217;T GET A SCOOP<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">1b) I like&#8211;or could like&#8211;that sound&#8230;go to 2<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2a) I really don&#8217;t like the way a scoop looks&#8230;.NO, DON&#8217;T GET A SCOOP<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">2b) I either like the way a scoop looks or I really don&#8217;t care one way or the other&#8230;go to 3<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">3a) I sometimes play above the 17th fret&#8230;go to 4<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">3b) I never play above the 17th fret&#8230;go to 5<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">4a) I am limited to having only one banjo&#8230;NO, DON&#8217;T GET A SCOOP<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"line-height: 1.6471;\">4b) I play several banjos, and can always play above the 17th fret on another instrument if needs <\/span>be<span style=\"line-height: 1.6471;\">&#8230;go to 5<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">5a) I am not comfortable trying to move my right hand to different positions to vary tone&#8230;NO, DON&#8217;T GET A SCOOP<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">5b) I&#8217;m willing to try something different and want to access the widest tonal range from my instrument&#8230;SURE, GO FOR IT!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">All that said, I really like having scoops on my modern banjos. I like the warm tone available there\u00a0but frequently play back closer to the bridge. \u00a0This photo of my everyday banjo\u2019s head shows pretty well how much I move my right hand about. \u00a0The photo of the scoop shows (if you look closely) the wear (well, really they&#8217;re just clean spots) between the strings and on the fingerboard\u2019s edge where my fingers and thumb make contact.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/head_wear.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-67\" src=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/head_wear-201x300.jpg\" alt=\"head_wear\" width=\"201\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/head_wear-201x300.jpg 201w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/head_wear.jpg 503w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 201px) 100vw, 201px\" \/><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/scoop_wear.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-68\" src=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/scoop_wear-179x300.jpg\" alt=\"scoop_wear\" width=\"179\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/scoop_wear-179x300.jpg 179w, https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/scoop_wear.jpg 448w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 179px) 100vw, 179px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>(<strong>Click on photos to enlarge<\/strong>)<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bottom line&#8211;if you like the idea, why not try a scooped banjo?<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The question arises not infrequently in clawhammer discussions as to whether or not it\u2019s a good idea to have a \u201cscooped\u201d banjo. Now for those unfamiliar with this term, it refers to replacing the higher frets (typically those above the 17th fret, though this is widely variable) with a lowered section of the fretboard. (While &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/2015\/09\/22\/on-scooping-banjos-for-clawhammer\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">On Scooping Banjos for Clawhammer&#8230;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-65","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=65"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":79,"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/65\/revisions\/79"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=65"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=65"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/zeppmusic.com\/Wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=65"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}